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I wonder who the American priests are. Are any of them from Atlanta?

Why don't they become parish priests, instead of forming a new religious order? They are desperately needed.

I'm not sure I could trust a new group consisting of former LCs. How can they avoid making the same mistakes all over again?


Ditto? Tritto?
It sounds like this group does good work, but why affiliate with a group with a similar unhealthy backround? To sit around the community room comparing horror stories? Better to spend some time reflecting if one has an authentic vocation, or if one was forced into a religious lifestyle through fear and intimidation.
A real 30 day retreat and/ or a sabatical program at a place regular priests and religious go would be very helpful. Then perhaps some might consider joining a diocese or a religious order - preferably one with a history of service to God's people - Franciscans, Benedictines, Jesuits etc. God bless those legion members who are in the process of a real discernment!

Each person is called to what they are called to. If someone wants to belong to something new, to a group doing hard work in a missionary country, and wants to have others who really understand what they are going through, then that may be a good option. Not all are called to be diocesan priests.

Let's not judge and be willing to give as many options as we can. These people in Jamaica want to help, so let them.


Those are good thoughts. There is a precedent for a good institute coming out of a problematic one. Look at the Society of St. Pius X. They were lawfully suppressed by order of Pope Paul VI, though they resisted his sanctions and ultimately went into schism. However, a very good group of priests, the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter came into being. If this new congregation can make a clean break with the past, I think that some real good could emerge. Otherwise, if they sit around rehashing old battles, it isn't going to do anybody any good.

I don't know, Ex aedibus. I wonder whether the cases are really parallel. St. Pius X was schismatical. It's problems were doctrinal and hence, it seems to me, "easily" fixed by a subset agreeing to accept and submit themselves to the Pope's authority. The Legion's problems are of a different kind. It's as if they've had spiritual and moral dysfunctions ingrained by Maciel's methods. CAN they recover if they continue to associate so closely only with others formed by the same methods? I have doubts.

Ex aedibus' comment is very interesting. I think one has to see - at least from what one can read from the Blog and on the quoted website - that the Bishop of Mandeville's action was quite analagous to what the Pope did with men leaving the Society of Saint Pius X. The Sons of Mary were a schismatic group. That was the problem. Some of them understood and left the Congregation in order to remain faithful to the Magisterium of the Church, basically like guys who had left SSX. There is another point that also needs to be considered. Bishop Boyle founded this Society on the urgings of Roman Authorities as one can read on the website. Being the former Superior General of the Passionist Order for 12 years, it is no small wonder that he gave his spiritual imprint on the new Society. His endeavour is totally kosher and seeing that I personally knew the Bishop when he was Superior General in Rome (his Australian secretary was a good friend of mine), I know that his expertise as a renowned canonist would not tolerate any nonesense. So the guys he chose to begin his Mission Society had to be trusted and tried churchmen. His wisdom as a former Superior General and first Ordinary of the Society is obviously very present at least on the website of the Society. As to if the LCs can recover, that is another question. Let us not mix apples and oranges Katie. From what I read in the blog it seems clear that some members within the Mission Society would understand from an affective point of view what it means to leave a congregation one had entered into with good will. That is where there can be a link. Apart from that I would surmise that anyone, from anywhere, wanting to join the Mission Society, would have to espouse the spirituality and embrace the Statutes given by Bishop Boyle. This is common canonical practice.

Its Joseph again. I just went to the website of the Mission Society...Here is the posting on their founder. Quite a man !

Bishop Paul M Boyle, C.P.
1926 - 2008
Paul M. Boyle was born in Detroit, Michigan, on May 28, 1926. In 1946 he made his vows as a Passionist of the Western Province of the United States. Ordained a Passionist priest in Louisville, Kentucky, on May 30, 1953 and sent to Rome for graduate studies in canon law, he received a licentiate in Sacred Theology from St. Thomas University in 1955 and a licentiate in Canon Law from the Pontifical Lateran University in 1957. He also attended Northwestern University in Evansville, Illinois, St. John's University in Collegeville, Minnesota, St. Regis College in Toronto, and St. Paul College in Detroit.

In 1964-1965 Boyle served as the president of the Canon Law Society of America and from 1965 to 1968 as its executive coordinator. He taught canon law and homiletics at Sacred Heart Seminary in Louisville and canon law at St. Meinrad Theological Seminary from 1965 to 1968. In 1969 Boyle became president of the Conference of Major Superiors of Men, a position he held until 1974. From 1974 to 1976 he served as president of Stewardship Services Inc., an organization established by the CMSM to give financial assistance to religious communities. During these years he began working on another project to help religious communities with financial management. In 1976 he founded and became the president of Religious Communities Trust (RCT) set up to instruct religious organizations on short term investments.

In May of 1968, Boyle was elected Provincial of the Holy Cross Province of the Passionists (Chicago); from 1976 until 1988 he served as Superior General of the Congregation. In 1991 Pope John Paul II made him the first bishop of the newly formed Apostolic Vicariate of Mandeville, Jamaica, West Indies.

As a member of the Antilles Episcopal Conference, Bishop Boyle participated in Synods of Bishops representing the Region. He brought to the Conference his expertise in Canon Law and encouraged the formation of the Canon Law Society of the Antilles. His accomplishments were many in the newly formed Diocese of Mandeville: he founded parishes, built clinics, began a Catholic College, established a diaconate program and constituted a diocesan clergy. He brought into the newly formed Diocese religious of many institutes and finally founded the Mission Society of Mandeville, a diocesan society of apostolic life imbued with Passionist spirituality.

Bishop Boyle retired in 2004 to the Passionist Community in Louisville, Kentucky. Since his retirement, he was active with preaching appeals for Food for the Poor, sacramental ministry, and other preaching engagements for the Diocese of Mandeville and its institutions.

Bishop Paul Boyle died from complications following surgery in Louisville, Kentucky, on January 10, 2008.


The problem with all these analogies is that they are different from the situation that LC finds itself in right now. Perhaps the SSPX/FSSP comparison was not the best. But then again, there hasn't been a situation like this, at least not in recent memory.

When the California Institute of the Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary became radicalised to the point where suppression was the only viable alternative, the majority were dispensed from their religious vows. Three sisters, who sought refuge in the Diocese of Wichita, founded a new community there in 1976. Eventually, they were forced to seek dispensation from their religious vows in the California Institute. All three of these foundresses were perpetually professed sisters. They subsequently made private vows before the Bishop of Wichita. They continued their work as an public association until 2007 when they were finally erected as a Congregation of Diocesan Right some 30 years later.

But in the case of the sisters, they at least had the example of their founder, Bishop Joaquin Masamitja de Puig to look back to. The LCs don't even have that. Instead of making bricks without straw, they're in essence forced to make bricks without bricks. For the younger members of the congregation, it may indeed be possible for them to transfer to a diocese or another congregation. But for those who've been with the LCs for forty or fifty years, the question really is "where do we go?"

Greetings to You In The Name Of Jesus Christ,

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