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Don

This must be the letter that Fr. Karras referred to:

"The Superior General has just sent an eighteen page letter meant, apparently, to motivate and strengthen the LCs in these difficult times. The meandering missive never even names the problems that are rocking the congregation to its core and basically offers three bits of advice to its confused, anguished and frustrated priests: pray, don’t read the newspapers and trust the superiors."

Jane

Just for the record, that was 8,555 words long.

Maybe the strategy was to write something so tediously long that no one could dissect it, it would be such a monumental task.

Anon in STL OUT 6-09

Jane: Maybe the strategy was to write something so tediously long that no one could dissect it, it would be such a monumental task.

I'm pretty sure you are on to something. No way I am sifting through that!

Mouse from Am Pap

I honestly *tried* to skim it. But I got really bored and there didn't seem to be anything new or interesting there anyway.

Let's leave it to the lawyers. :) (Actually, that letter was WAYYYYYY more boring than reading law codes!)

giselle

To quote Rush, "I wade through this stuff so you don't have to."

Molly Callahan

Great letter for ENVOY 3657. Such rich material for a study circle for at least 18 weeks (1 week per page). Seriously who can read all of this? I don't think even the well-formed and well-integrated LC will read all of this, unless they're having trouble sleeping. Drones on & on & on & on & on........ I quit reading Fr. A's letters about 2 years before I quit RC, I would rather chew on glass.

Mum26

I only made it through the first part, that which was posted.....yawn!

It reminded me of a letter my husband showed me 14 years ago which he received by a woman who had stayed behind in the cult that he had walked away from...... many words, but nothing said. Hollow, empty, shallow.... brainwashed.

Mercy!
Mum26

another interested party

A blind man is given a piece of Matza, lightly lets his fingers run over the bumps, and exclaims "who writes this stuff!"

Anonymous

Anybody else as sick as I am of all the slavering expressions of gratitude that Alvaro manages to squeeze into every single letter?

"I also take advantage of this occasion to thank you from my heart for your fidelity and giving which are born from love. Even though only God can know it and value it in its just measure, I am very aware of the generous sacrifice which is implied by your daily self-gift in search of that proper sanctity of those who take the narrow path of the Gospel; a path which leads to salvation, which lead to our homeland: heaven."

He's constantly pandering to the need for his LC/RC minions to feel important, appreciated, and faithful. What grown-up needs this much thanking?? I mean, please! It's just plain nauseating.

The constant self-appreciation and self-recognition by LC/RC hierarchy is sickening. Who in the world needs---or more importantly, wants---to be thanked so slavishly all the time? Something is seriously wrong with both the giver of such pandering gratitude and the receiver who allows this to go on. Constant flattery and pandering to the RC/LC need to feel important!

I am so sick of this theme of repulsive self-appreciation. The people Alvaro SHOULD be thanking are the ones who tried for decades to sound the alarm about the horrible sins of Maciel.

Here's an idea, Alvaro: how about expressing even the slightest bit of regret that you didn't investigate any further in Maciel's deviance when the article came out in the Hartford Courant in 1997? Oh, that's right----it was already old news to you, because you knew long before that that your founder was an abusive fraud. I guess we won't be hearing any such expressions of regret----or gratitude to the people who tried to expose Maciel for what he was all those years. You are still too busy being pissed off that it was all revealed in the first place.

Damn pesky "enemies of the Church" just wouldn't let up, would they?! And now look what a pickle you are in!

CindyB

"Nuestro Padre (literally in Spanish: Our Father founder)"

My Spanish isn't very good, but where is the word founder in Nuestro Padre? It always struck me as weird to hear this title for MM. And I rarely heard it pronounced correctly.

SS

I really could't get through it and only grasped certain points.

One:

"You know very well that my only desire is to accompany each one of you. I ask you that if you see something in which I might be able to help of step forward in, do not hesitate to tell me."

This is the danger, when a priest starts to only see the members of his own movement as his "flock."

Because, really, Father. There are a gazillion things you could be doing right now for the good of the Church, the good of the faithful, the good of the Holy Father, the good of the non-Catholics of the world who are susceptible to scandal, etc.

But, no.

You sit in the kitchen, singing your serene songs, baking these unending spiritual cherry pies, with canned, garbage filling no less. You sing of your magnificent love, your great service, your amazing serenity, your exalted vocation, your stupendous calling, and yet, you are in your bubble of a kitchen, baking crappy cherry pies, and insisting the salvation of the world from all eternity depends on it.

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”

AND:

“It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere.”

(I don't mean all members are fools. But this priest has struck me as one for quite some time. He may be a devout fool, but a fool, nonetheless.)

giselle

"..all the slavering expressions of gratitude ..."

Remember from our other thread? His job is to play the women. This is over the top and laughable stuff, but it's from the playbook. It may be all he knows. (This is where Pete should drop in to remind us that the Fr Euteneuer's of the Church don't act like this. And he would be correct.)

SS

I should add, he's a fool, best case scenario. Or else, he's corrupt. Those are the only 2 options, at this point.

giselle

"You sit in the kitchen, singing your serene songs, baking these unending spiritual cherry pies, with canned, garbage filling no less. You sing of your magnificent love, your great service, your amazing serenity, your exalted vocation, your stupendous calling, and yet, you are in your bubble of a kitchen, baking crappy cherry pies, and insisting the salvation of the world from all eternity depends on it."

That SS must stand for "Stellar Style!" You've nailed it.

DaniNz

I skim read it.

There is no way I could read that.

anonymous

I really hate the word cordial...

Anyway, I remember as a 3gf minion falling asleep during "evening prayer," which was 30 minutes of reading/meditating/praying the letters of the mustachioed one. I never saw what was so great about them, although we were constantly told that they were filled with some of the greatest theology of the modern Church. The Psalterio de mis Dias was supposedly something akin to classic mystical literature. I always fell asleep. I just figured it was too deep for me and I didn't "get" it.

Frank I

In a nutshell, this garbage reflects the standard, truncated Legionary personality that has nothing to offer but pablum and pious platitudes. Zero content here, folks. Kind of like lightweight Johnny Morris running away from the debate with Fr. Euteneuer by appealing to "charity."

Anonymous

I feel like I need a whole bottle of cordial after trying to read 18 pages of this tripe.

Poor Archbishop Chaput.

SS

giselle, thanks.

I keep trying to read through this thing but my whole, sane soul recoils.

anonymous

Now, a bottle of cordial isn't a bad idea...not a bad idea at all.

Actually, a shot of tequila sounds even better! Viva Mexico!

RC Dissenter

I remember picking up "Christ is my Life" shortly after incorporating, skimming through it, declaring that he probably was a child molesting pig. I tossed it into the garbage.

I feel the same way about this letter. The difference? Fr. Alvaro is a Child Molesting Pig Protector.

mom in atlanta

The flowery formality of this and all of MM letters is so off-putting. I never could read or meditate on them as I was suppossed to. It is so unreal. People do not talk like this! I often put it off as a translation thing, but I know that is not the whole story. Cheesy is cheesy, no matter what language.

The euphamisms like 'difficulties of the present time' make my skin crawl.
I have only skimmed so far but in particular the part about the cross etc. He makes it sound as if God gave them the cross as a special gift, not that the 'difficulties of the present time' are due to the uncovered and exposed deception and sin of the founder. No! The 'difficulties' are happening *because* God loves them in a special way.

gregorbo

Counted sixteen "I"'s in the first four paragraphs. Stopped reading. -I'll go back later, folks.-

Getting back to basics

I know that the LC excuse for not naming the many and varied sins of their Founder is the piously empty platitude that we have a duty in charity not to publish the sins of others. It kind of makes me wonder what they teach their students in history! How do they approach figures such as Stalin and Hitler? Plus, I wonder if any of them has actually read their Bibles - it is FULL of the sins of others! Even Jesus doesn't balk at publically criticising the Pharisees, nor from detailing the adultary of the woman at the well. Tsk! Tsk! Naughty Jesus! What a lack of charity! Perhaps he should take the LCs as His example!

Pete Vere

I read it. I feel a lot more pity for Fr. Alvaro, for having done so. What kept going through my head was the following quote from Gandalf:

"Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. [...] Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play yet, for good or ill before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many."

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