Most Helpful Posts

Helpful Articles

Blog powered by TypePad

Comment Policy

  • All constructive comments will be accepted.
    Commenting anonymously is certainly permitted as long as it adds to the understanding of this topic. The point of this site is to foster love for Christ, while analyzing the place of Regnum Christi in the Church. (Please know that no one will be able to track your comments -- neither the readers nor the webmaster. We all understand the hesitancy in speaking about this experience and the fallout that can accrue. All comments will only bear the information you choose to reveal.)

« Benedict is part of the solution | Main | Radio interview »

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d8345201d369e20133ec50ac94970b

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Awkward boasting:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Dilbert

Consider all the resources they have to work with - $ 20 billion assets, over 800 priests, hundreds of consecrated women and many tens of thousands of volunteers. What do they have to show for all that? Most people where I live have never even heard of them.

ML

What fruits did he bring????

He stole people's idea and turned them into apostolate. That was what I thought when I found out Benkovik had your hearth magazine, and I cancel my subscription. What path, what apostolate did MM came up with? maybe I am ignorant. What new way of education did he come up with? something like De la Salle, Don Bosco?
to me every apostolate came up from some good catholic soul to "etablish the Kingdom of God". The only MM did is keeping able men from being ordained within reasonable time, so they would harvest more vocations in South America for the "mouvement". To me the only fruits he came up with, are sins, and they are legions!!!

Erin Manning

There's also the oddity that all of the "good works" are so spread out, so redundant (how many different variations of children's clubs do we need, anyway?) and that the Legion connection to its apostolates is sometimes hard to track down.

I've been putting together a list of known Legion affiliates, here:

http://redcardigan.blogspot.com/2010/03/legion-from-alpha-to-zenit.html

I can't help but wonder how many of these groups, etc. are duplicates of work being done by others, and so forth.

giselle

Let me clarify, ML. I gave my magazine to Johnnette with my blessing. I wanted to leave it aside at the providential time when she needed a magazine for her Women of Grace. I stayed on as editor for the first year, and then stepped aside to pursue my own writing. Please, never think there was anything untoward in the transferral. She has an excellent apostolate and a real heart for women. As far as I know, she has nothing to do with Regnum Christi.

reid

I have grown tired of mmlegion's biological metaphors, but I'll play along. What is the chance that the fruits are good, etc?

Not good. Examine the soil in which the tree has been planted and the nourishment it has received. Under certain ecological conditions plants may become poisonous as the result of accumulation of toxic substances.

DF

I never heard of Ed Mulholland, but I bet the poor guy would like that book blurb back. That's one for the ages.

ML

Giselle,
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I came across a few apostolates taken over, that I became suspicious for Hearth. I was mistaken.

DF

The problem with the fruits argument is that Maciel reduced "fruits" to numbers rather than the practice of theological virtues.

And then of course the Legion infamously makes up all of the numbers. Does anyone seriously believe there were ever 70,000 Regnum Christi members?

anonymmous

I believe RC/LC is a counterfeit spirituality. It is not easy to distinguish real fruit from counterfeit "fruit." The only way you can detect a counterfiet is if you have a trained eye - if you know what REAL fruit looks, feels, sounds and tastes like. Real spiritual fruit produces humility. If the RC/LC really studied the spiritual heritage of the Church they would have more ability to see through the flattery and the manipulation. I think the LC purposely take parts of real spirituality and either add to it or subtract from it to use it for their purposes. The litmus test is always humility.

Cherry

DF - thank you for pointing out the exaggeration of RC numbers. 70,000?

It would be an enlightening exercise (while we wait the result of the AV?) to quote the membership in our respective regions to ascertain how many RCs there REALLY are. I think we'll find the actual numbers are an inconsequesntial drop in the bucket of the Catholic world.

This will only work if there is good participation.

Any takers?

Anonymous

DF,

I also thought that when I read that quote by Ed Mulholland. If he ever had any reputation as a writer or journalist anywhere at all, that is long gone.

Of course, he was probably a minion drummed up from the RC troops and made to feel special when asked to put this book together. He may have had no integrity or journalistic talent at all in the first place, knowing how the LC works.

For all we know, he's a pseudonym, come to think of it. LOL

Recovering from RC

Anon @ 10:58, SO TRUE about recognizing counterfeit fruit by knowing TRUE fruit! It wasn't until I was "out" and attended a workshop on Ignatian spirituality by the great - and yes, very humble - Fr. Timothy Gallagher that I finally saw how completely phony the LC version of "spiritual exercises" really is. I could only weep!

Plus, so-called "spiritual direction" was never very spiritual at all, but rather focused on "apostolate" and tattling on the other women. The "program of life" was never really addressed. Even if it were, I now see how insane it is to place such inordinate attention on your weaknesses and "fixing" them through human strength. Ha!

Anyway, the whole fruit argument falls apart for me when realizing that their "spirituality" was nothing but a mirage. The spiritual growth I experienced was by God's grace and in spite of the accident of Regnum/Legion. Thank you, Jesus!

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment