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I'm in.
also:"@CatholicNewsSvc: Legion of Christ will begin extraordinary general chapter Jan. 8 to elect new leaders, approve new constitutions"
If ever prayers were needed, now is the time.

What happens at a General Chapter? I was naively envisioning every Legionary participating, having a "vote" but reading the article from the Legion of Christ website linked above by Fr John, this is obviously not the case. Does the PTB in the Legion have the power to stack the deck in favor of the status quo? It seems they already have an advantage by about 2/3 of the vote. Can someone interpret the impact of active versus passive voice, given this split?

I have no faith anything substantial will come out of the General Chapter except maybe there will be another exodus of LCs, those who have placed their last hope on the General Chapter.

@les
The norms in VdeP's letter refers to the election of delegates who will go to and participate in the General Chapter. The voting mentioned here only refers to the selection of these delegates. Note that there are delgates that participate "Ex officio". These are the General Director, General Counselors, General Procurator, General Administrator, General Secretary, General Prefect of Studies, and Territorial Directors. They were elected to their possitions at the last GC. Some have been replaced since by VdeP.
The rest of the delegates will be elected from among elegible members of the LC.
What happens at the GC? First, they will do 8 days of Spiritual Exercises. Upon concluding these, the first order of business is the election of the new superiors. I do not remember the GC elects only from those present in the Chapter, or if they can elect someone who is not present. Maybe some other ex-lc's can help with this.
Like the Pope, from the moment someone is elected with the needed majority and he accepts, he is the General Director and presides the rest of the Chapter.
I do not know if VdeP will be present in the chapter and if he has a vote.
From there on, they will spend their time discussing and deciding on the constitutions.

I don't know what everybody is worried about. Cardinal De Paolis is quite chipper about the entire affair:

"“The General Chapter should represent the whole institute and be 'a true sign of its unity in charity,'” Cardinal Velasio De Paolis wrote in an Oct. 4 letter to the Legionaries of Christ.

“The upcoming Extraordinary General Chapter comes at the end of a long journey of spiritual renewal and will have as its principle purpose the conclusion of the revising of the Constitutions.”

Ah, the end of a long journey of spiritual renewal. The renewal has apparently already happened, and now it's just a matter of the formality of making a few changes to the constitutions, and it's time to MOVE ON, PEOPLE!

And just to add a bit of insult to injury, he's bringing St. Francis (beloved of the Pope, of course) to the banquet:

"Cardinal De Paolis said in his letter that he “thought that it would be good to announce (the general chapter) on the day that the Church celebrates the memory of St. Francis of Assisi. Let us place this important event under the protection of the Poverello of Assisi.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/legion-of-christ-general-chapter-announced-for-january/

* For the 3GF, like their LC counterparts, have found the best revision is to retreat back to what they were. Yet something of a showdown about governance has to be worked out. Just about the only glaring canonical irregularity that the DePaolis/Ghirlanda duo has not thus far consented to.

The 3GF have been clamoring to stay under LC control in any way they can manage. They would in effect be lost in the 'charism' if centralized LC control were not part of their life. - All a sure sign of how authority has replaced true charism.

It will be worthwhile watching to see if Ghirlanda and DePaolis back down on this point.

*For the LCs, note the DePaolis letter made no reference to Pope Francis per se, only to Benedict. No references were made to the submission of the constitutions to the Holy See for approval AFTER the General Chapter. One notes Francis's first official act with DePaolis was to announce the end of DePaolis's reign there by setting a date, and with an ominous postlude to the process about the LC needing to find their place in the Church.

My guess is the official policy of Francis for the LCs will only become known on March 1 when the order's constitutions have to run through the meatgrinder of the Congregation for Religious for final approval. This will mark the next chapter in a book that has much more to be written.

We all need to seriously stage a protest. Start with the apostolic schools and get them to close down? Start with ICAS in New Hampshire maybe? Then we could get some serious news articles in major Catholic publications about what actually goes on in apostolic schools? We need to begin somewhere and I think we need to begin chipping away at the bottom: the apostolic schools. Close them all down in the States.

Mark, with all due respect, 15 years ago we were trying to tell people what went on in the Apostolic Schools. No one believed us. Parents still sent kids there.

Sure, things have changed, but it's not like we haven't been at this for a while, and it's not like there are not crazy and irresponsible parents out there who will still send their kids there.

Maybe its time to chip away at our bishops, or our parish priests who only see the pious exterior of the LC/RC. Next time the LC/RC show up at an event, be there in force, and ask loud questions about the scandal and how it has been handled. Write letters to the editor at the local paper asking questions about the local LC school, describe the life of the 3gfs, ask why the shepherd is not protecting his flock.

Just 'thinking out loud', it feels like nothing has been done about this group in a long time, and I'm tired of waiting for action by the Vatican.

Les, ditto.

Glenn, there are nutty parents who pop out children just so they're raised by the legion! They are so brainwashed and think that by sacrificing their kids, they will make it into "the kingdom" quicker, all while the priests chuckle about how dumb the fish are! These people were recruited while vulnerable and seeking acceptance. In exchange, they agree to manipulate and control others. I see no transparency. They continue to deceive the wealthy and are definitely a cult.

Gems [6 Oct] points out that Card. DePaolis, LC, has employed the old legion suck-up-to-the-pope tactic by thinking how nice it would be to announce the genchpt on the day the Church celebrates the memory of St. Francis of Assisi. Stuff like that will not impress this pope. But DePaolis saying what he said clearly demonstrates that other than superficial changes, there has been no authentic reform of this outfit. Four years of jogging in place.

Children are innocent until corrupted by very troubled adults.

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