Pete Vere dug through his archives and found an enlightening comment from March, 2010:
There is more to the LC RC controversy, the "Unique Methodology" supposedly developed by Father Maciel was almost an carbon copy of the Latter Days Saints Community Methodology. Having lived amongst Mormons for over 9 years, I recommend every RC member to read Judy Robinson's book "Out of Mormonism" to discover Fr. Maciel's methodology is not unique at all.
When I confronted the leaders of the RC Movement at our LC school in the suburbs of St. Louis, I was told at first, "How ridiculous, RC is completely Catholic, and what a ridiculous accusation! How could you possibly compare it to Mormonism?" Then I explained I was not saying the theology was like the Mormons, just the methodology. They replicated the Mormon methodology to the tee. A RC woman's lifestyle in the "movement" was so identical to a LDS member's lifestyle in their movement, I challenged a RC leader to read "Out of Mormonism", and then tell me what she thought. This woman was a staunch defender of Fr. Maciel, and everything RC. She called me back 3 days after reading "Out of Mormonism", you're right, she said, "We're not Catholic, we're Mormon!" She was horrified by the exact replication.
I confronted the Priest, Fr. Edward Hopkins, at first he denied any similarities, saying he had heard the accusations of cult-like coincidences, then he said," but the Mormons? Why would you ever say we were like the Mormons? I said I had lived amongst Mormons for over 9 years, visited the temple many times, and the similarities are more than uncanny, their methodologies are identical. Then he shut the door, and explained to me that the Mormons are the fastest growing church in Mexico, so Fr. Maciel mimicked the methodology to stop the hemorrhaging from the Catholic church to the Mormons, and said they were taking what was good from the Mormon Methodology, and leaving the bad, like it says to do in the Bible." That was when I left, I find nothing redeeming from the Mormons.
Mormons are encouraged to do what the call "organized shunning" to punish church members who disagree with Church leadership. Organized shunning is for the erring church member's own good they say. The organizational structure is almost identical, Fr. Edward would not have denied the similarities at first if he had not known I had so much familiarity with the LDS movement, then making excuses for it made me think I am not the first person to see the correlations. I was soon shunned for speaking the truth, even thought Father the similarities were glaringly obvious to anyone who ever spend time with LDS movement members.
The similarities are so many, I highly recommend RC members read "Out of Mormonism" by Judy Robertson, the irony was that the women who accused me of making a ridiculous claim was so outraged that she had been fooled by Fr. Maciel that he had come up with this "Unique Methodology", he had claimed credit for devising a system that has been in play within the LDS movement for over 100 years. She seemed to be able to believe the pedophilia claims were false, but now after reading "Out of Mormonism" she could not longer believe the "Unique Methodology" was original, as we have all learned his supposed
"original" writings were also plagiarized. So, nothing was unique, or original, or honest it seems.
I left because I felt an enormous fraud was being enacting on the unsuspecting members of this RC movement, and their own blind loyalty was perpetuating it. I also felt uncomfortable when I was told that Father Maciel asked that his devotees not begin efforts toward his canonization till at least 30 years after his death. What saint would even propose that he would be considered for sainthood? One unifying characteristic of saints was their profound humility, Fr. Maciel seemed to lack humility entirely. Well as the old saying goes "you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool, all the people all of the time."
The occasion was a recent post concerning Mormonism, specifically the scam concerning its foundations, which occasioned a glib response, dismissing the revelation as irrelevant (reminding me of LC responses to all revelations). But, if you take this story (which sounds plausible) and add to it another, you'll find a more curious mix.
I was with Jose Barba and Juan Vaca a few years back, and they were around at the inception of Regnum Christi. They said that MM simply reached over into Opus dei to take its methodology for prayer, and those became our "commitments" daily/weekly/monthly/yearly. I can attest to their total similarity.
Then when you add the recent expenditure, you'll see the "charism" consists of:
- Mormon psychology;
- Opus dei discipline;
- Business-speak definitions.
Voila -- You have a "unique" Catholic Movement that will save the Church!
ADDENDUM: And back to the ubiquitous mention of "fruit," remember that borrowing/plagiarising methods that work in other settings helps get a jump on those numbers (that the Legion's supporters find so compelling) seems to short-circuit the Holy Spirit. Who needs a divine mandate if MBA's and cults can combine to create a dynamic work of God?